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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  raymond frantz

  Tony Morris departure is not accidental it coincides with the 2 NEW governing body members being brought in only last month. I believe Mark Sanderson who sees himself as the new Nathan Knorr is moving the strings behind the scenes. In the same way Nathan Knorr oversaw the massive changes after the embarrassing reign of Judge Rutherford so it is now. Mark Sanderdon wants to see off the old guard, Tony,Lett and Sam that are 3 embarrassing fools that have damaged the organisation the past 20 years with the mishandling of pedophilia cases and the demise of the religious to nothing more but a very toxic brand
  
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  TONY MORRIS , IS GONE, CONNECTING THE DOTS

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://youtu.be/ewp8o6dgwmg.

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  Divisions deliberately caused by God?

  by LostintheFog1999 in

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  assuming that you don't dismiss genesis outright as a collection of myths, i was musing about the actions of god as recorded in genesis 11:1-9 regarding the building of the tower of babel.. this origin story for the multiplicity of languages in the earth has god getting annoyed with humans for staying in one location instead of filling out across the whole world.. yahweh could have stopped the tower being built by collapsing it by means of an earthquake, sinking sand, or an extreme gale.

  even using an angel to kick it over when everyone was tucked up in bed asleep.

  but no, instead he muddles up the vocabulary and grammar and made brand new languages creating division and confusion.. what's more he didn't scatter them and send them off in mixed multicultural groups, but instead he lets them wander off in tribes and family groups.

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  oh i see, no I believe these accounts are not myths and Moses did write the book of Genesis, Idon't believe ancient people were just idiots making stuff up and you will find this whole discreting of ancient books and accounts is a later invention.If everything is a fairytale there is hardly any point to any of this.
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  Divisions deliberately caused by God?

  by LostintheFog1999 in

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  assuming that you don't dismiss genesis outright as a collection of myths, i was musing about the actions of god as recorded in genesis 11:1-9 regarding the building of the tower of babel.. this origin story for the multiplicity of languages in the earth has god getting annoyed with humans for staying in one location instead of filling out across the whole world.. yahweh could have stopped the tower being built by collapsing it by means of an earthquake, sinking sand, or an extreme gale.

  even using an angel to kick it over when everyone was tucked up in bed asleep.

  but no, instead he muddles up the vocabulary and grammar and made brand new languages creating division and confusion.. what's more he didn't scatter them and send them off in mixed multicultural groups, but instead he lets them wander off in tribes and family groups.

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  raymond frantz

  LostintheFog1999, your theory has some legs in that the Genesis account consists of short stories that Moses connected into longer narrative, nevertheless it is chronologicaly correct since Nimrod was indeed Noah’s great grandson.

  WAS NIMROD A NEPHILIM? The account seems to suggest that he became a "giborim=mighty one" like the Nephilim of old.

  WHY WOULD GOD CONFUSE THE LANGUAGES?

  Many don't know that building the tower was an open rebellion to God.According to Josephus, Nimrod changed the nature of the government to tyranny under his brutal and evil dictatorship, just as an evil potentate would do, and even more importantly, just as an evil Nephilim potentate would do. Through the brutal and corrupt power of his government, Nimrod imposed his will and state-sponsored religion upon the people of Shinar. Through brute force and fear, Nimrod was successful in implementing his rebellious and heretical religion on most of the people at that time. Those who did not abide by the new ways were callously removed, likely by death, from the so-called enlightened, foreshadowing the great end-time genocide that will be waged first by the religion of Babylon (Rev. 7:1–17; Rev. 18:24; and Rev. 19:2) and then by the Antichrist (Rev. 13:5–18).
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  Divisions deliberately caused by God?

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  assuming that you don't dismiss genesis outright as a collection of myths, i was musing about the actions of god as recorded in genesis 11:1-9 regarding the building of the tower of babel.. this origin story for the multiplicity of languages in the earth has god getting annoyed with humans for staying in one location instead of filling out across the whole world.. yahweh could have stopped the tower being built by collapsing it by means of an earthquake, sinking sand, or an extreme gale.

  even using an angel to kick it over when everyone was tucked up in bed asleep.

  but no, instead he muddles up the vocabulary and grammar and made brand new languages creating division and confusion.. what's more he didn't scatter them and send them off in mixed multicultural groups, but instead he lets them wander off in tribes and family groups.

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  So let me get this right, you don't believe that Nimrod was involved with the tower of Babel? Also why do you think someone added this intersection about Noah?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  All serious employers check your social media history in the UK, and we all know what they're gonna find. He is no capable of manual work either. So won't be surprised if in the end he begs daddy to have him back in his big house in Wilmslow. This seems the only way to the UK .The only way his father will have him back is if he stops his apostate work and rejoin the witnesses. I know you all think this is impossible but Wilmslow elders are all in hs dad's pocket for some strange reason. Now wouldn't that be something? This congregation is a nightmare for Bethel to control, they have terrible history in dealing with problems to the point that Bethel has send in 4 new elders from all around the country to short them out .They arrogant, proud and openly disrespect circuit overseers wishes and think that is why they have been blacklisted by Bethel. Just wait and see, the great apostate will turn his back to the exjw community to save his skin
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  raymond frantz

  Manchester , you can't rent a tent never mind a flat for less than £700/month, unless you aim for very run down areas which he won't since he is used to affluent Wilmslow
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  Divisions deliberately caused by God?

  by LostintheFog1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  assuming that you don't dismiss genesis outright as a collection of myths, i was musing about the actions of god as recorded in genesis 11:1-9 regarding the building of the tower of babel.. this origin story for the multiplicity of languages in the earth has god getting annoyed with humans for staying in one location instead of filling out across the whole world.. yahweh could have stopped the tower being built by collapsing it by means of an earthquake, sinking sand, or an extreme gale.

  even using an angel to kick it over when everyone was tucked up in bed asleep.

  but no, instead he muddles up the vocabulary and grammar and made brand new languages creating division and confusion.. what's more he didn't scatter them and send them off in mixed multicultural groups, but instead he lets them wander off in tribes and family groups.

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  raymond frantz

  Very interesting thank you, the following might be some reasons why God caused the division.

  After the biblical flood, people began to repopulate the earth. But instead of distributing throughout the world, they concentrated into a single region and decided to build the tower of babel. Under the rulership of Nimrod, a large group of individuals began construction of a tower. It makes one think of the pyramids which was a colossal waste of time. The pyramids are an excellent example man’s extreme hubris. It took years to construct each pyramid, using slavery to accomplish it. Why did the pharohs have so much pride in such an offensive construction project ? Did the pyramids benefit Egyptian community as a whole ? No. It was simply a construction project of extreme vanity. It was a waste of time, energy and resources.

  Similarly the tower of babel was a colossal waste of time. The mission statement of this construction project, was to show others (and God) that man could attain greatness by himself, and that he doesn’t need God. The tower was a metaphor for the idea that man could reach heaven without God’s help. Such is the hubris of man. The word “babel” means another gate/God, which is a metaphor for another way into heaven. Instead of relying upon the Lord to get into heaven, the tower of babel symbolized the idea of another way of sneaking into heaven, by man’s works and not by the works of the Lord (by His grace, through Jesus Christ). Clearly there is no backdoor into heaven. There is only one way into heaven, and that is by Father God’s grace, through the redemptive works of Jesus Christ on the cross. It is Jesus’ final atoning sacrifice on the cross that erases all of our sins, thereby allowing us to enter into heaven.

  So in response, God confounded their languages and caused them to disperse throughout the world. Why do this ? Recall in the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve were removed from the Garden of Eden. They were expelled because they desired to be more than they are, to become as gods. We see in this lust for power, a parallel with the devil (satan) who wanted to not only be God, but also be higher than God. This theme is found throughout the biblical accounts. Man not being content with what he has, and always lusting and coveting for more. The tower of babel, reveals the dangers of a single human authority figure.

  All of the people were under a single dictator (Nimrod). So that if that dictator became evil, then evil would disseminate throughout all people. However, as the people formed into nations and distributed across the world, under multiple leaders and kings, this made it much more difficult for the entire world to become evil via a single corrupt leader. This is the same reason why Jesus called for the formation of multiple, independent churches not under a single authority. This would help prevent the corruption of all churches, by poisoning a single authority that dictates all churches under a single authority structure. We see this mechanism with the U.S. Constitution, where we have checks and balances built into the construct of government power.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  raymond frantz

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